tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post6554706292984254373..comments2009-10-15T04:53:38.085-05:00Comments on Imagine...A Complex Creation: "I'm not gay!" the dog barked.Jed Carosaarihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post-73282488239906062012006-12-06T03:46:00.001-06:002006-12-06T03:46:00.001-06:00I've loved that book- thank you!I've <i>loved</i> that book- thank you!Jed Carosaarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post-17589130359228630932006-12-06T03:46:00.000-06:002006-12-06T03:46:00.000-06:00Quaintance said: Not in text, I'm afraid. Sometim...Quaintance said: Not in text, I'm afraid. Sometime soon perhaps we can chat o nthe phone and I can clarify my position then.Jed Carosaarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post-67827780743529602792006-12-06T03:45:00.002-06:002006-12-06T03:45:00.002-06:00I hope I can entice you to try for more explanatio...I hope I can entice you to try for more explanation, because I'm not completely clear on some of your excellent thoughts.<br /><br />1) Yes, I agree. In fact, it was the recessive possibility that I was dwelling on later. But it would have to require that those with the gene for homosexuality would continue to breed, at least at a low level, or else the entire possibility would be bred out, and by this time, after a couple million years, be gone. Unless it is polygenic, as you suggest, or a spandrel, and is attached to some advantage that we are not aware of.<br /><br />2)I'm not sure if I understood this comment, but if I did, I agree. Animals I would suggest are ammoral, with the possible exception of more intelligent ones, but in that case, they have their own morality.<br /><br />3)The third comment I definitely had difficulty understanding your meaning. We are moral animals, I'd agree. That's what makes us different from the rest of the animals. Are you suggesting that there isn't a overall morality for all humans? If so, I would disagree, though say that in certain things morality is worked out through different cultures. (i.e. It is immoral to show up late in America in many situations but just fine in Africa, for in the U.S. you have made an implied commitment with your word to be on time. Moral to be topless in the South Pacific, immoral in the U.S.) <br /><br />4)Thanks so much for that book recommendation! I'm going to run right out and get it.Jed Carosaarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post-69134353826213313932006-12-06T03:45:00.001-06:002006-12-06T03:45:00.001-06:00Quaintance said: third times' a charm? In extreme...Quaintance said: third times' a charm? In extreme brief:<br /><br />1) Polygenic inheritance can explain in part why non-adaptive traits do not disappear, as can recessive traits in standard Medelian genetics.<br />2) Applying human morality to animals is silly. Calling intimate behaviors by their true motives would make us uncomfortable, so it's at least entertaining to do it the other way around.<br />3) Applying morality to humans broadly is equally silly. We are still animals, whether we choose to accept it or not. <br />4) Best read on these topics I've found "Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice for all Creation"Jed Carosaarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post-15143968066450092122006-12-06T03:45:00.000-06:002006-12-06T03:45:00.000-06:00Joe said: I've often wondered how a trait that wa...<a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/33458147">Joe</a> said: I've often wondered how a trait that was supposedly genetic could survive if it doesn't result in reproduction.<br /><br />I read a book this summer called Sperm Wars which was a layman-oriented explanation of the biological/evolutionary basis for various sexual behaviors, including ordinary monogamous sex, infidelity, masturbation, and homosexuality. The author's primary explanation for most behaviors had to do with providing the best possible environment for fertilization to take place. I can't remember how homosexual behavior fit into the picture though.<br /><br />drh...don't worry, Krispy Kremes aren't good for you anyway. Survival of the fittest an' all...Jed Carosaarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2307050425441646928.post-76567583743361963062006-12-06T03:44:00.000-06:002006-12-06T03:44:00.000-06:00Drh said: I’m in Africa. Your blog reminded me of...<a href="http://beta.blogger.com/profile/17887200704656859096">Drh</a> said: I’m in Africa. Your blog reminded me of Krispy Kremes, something I can’t get here. Thank you.Jed Carosaarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775889983099808362noreply@blogger.com